About Success Path
Perhaps you have a friend or family member who’s always talking about the money they’re making flipping houses. Or, maybe you’ve watched several episodes of popular house-flipping TV shows, and your interest is piqued. Either way, you want in on the action. But where can you turn?
Endorsed by Tarek and Christina El Moussa, stars of HGTV’s hit reality show Flip or Flop, Success Path is a seminar-based educational program that claims to help you “build your future” by learning how to become a real estate entrepreneur. Through the Success Path series, you’ll learn:
- How to master the components of house flipping
- The secrets of finding deals in nearby neighborhoods
- How to close deals using other people’s money
- Business concepts like planning and goal setting, asset protection, funding acquisitions, and creating an LLC
- How to move toward your income strategy with “greater velocity”
You probably noticed that Success Path’s seminars are constantly traveling to new cities, so there’s probably one near you at this very moment. But before you spend your time (and possibly your money) on a Success Path seminar, we think there are some important things you should know, all of which we’ll cover here.
Ultimately, there’s nothing like on-the-ground feedback, so this is where we’ll start.
What Are Success Path Seminar Attendees Saying?
Overall, it seems like Success Path’s seminars come with mostly negative online feedback from those who attended. However, it’s important to note that much of this feedback was identical to other real estate seminars we’ve reviewed (we’ll go into much more detail about this in the next section), so it’s certainly not unique.
What’s everyone saying? Most of these seminar-based real estate programs end up being discussed on BiggerPockets.com’s forums, and Success Path is no different. In general, the two most common complaints were:
- A lot of upselling (in fact, more than one user claimed that roughly 70% was focused on convincing attendees to purchase additional training), whether in the free or 3-day events. In addition, one of the first “homework assignments” in these seminars is to call your credit card company and request a limit increase.
- Even among the 30% of these beginner’s seminars that contained usable information, much of it can be learned elsewhere for free, such as online real estate forums, books, local real estate groups, and so forth. Several members specifically mentioned that your money might be better spent on an income-producing property than a higher-level Success Path seminar.
Regardless of where you look, and regardless of the real estate seminar you’re investigating, this common negative feedback might make you run away quickly. But is this necessarily warranted? Let’s answer the question by talking about our personal experience.
Our Experience With Real Estate Seminars Like Success Path
Over the years, the HighYa team has reviewed several popular real estate seminar programs, including Flip with Nick, Scott Yancey, The Flipping Formula, FortuneBuilders, and more. In the instances of Flip with Nick and Scott Yancey, we were invited to attend upper-level events, experience them first-hand, speak with other attendees, and gain some valuable insight. What’d we learn? Quite a lot, so let’s break it down into digestible bits:
There Will Be a Lot of Upselling
Like seminar attendees noted in the previous section, we experienced quite a bit of upselling and “pep talks” for motivation. Although frequent, the upselling seemed relevant to the topic at hand.
If you’re sensitive to sales pitches though, these types of seminars might not be your cup of tea. This is especially relevant to the free “preview” events, where upselling is generally more frequent than at paid events.
What You’ll Learn Might Not Be Unique
Do Tarek and Christina have their own tricks of the trade that they might pass along in these seminars (assuming the content is built around their coaching; more about this soon)? It’s certainly possible.
But much of what you’ll learn—especially in the lower level classes—is probably tried-and-true information that can be picked up elsewhere for free, or at a minimal cost, like books or online forums. However, once you transition to higher level classes, you’ll almost certainly benefit from some experience in the field and/or lower level classes to act as a foundation.
It’s Up to You to Take Action
Regardless of what you learn, if you don’t take action and implement this information, it won’t move you any closer to your goals.
Throughout seminar series like Success Path, you’ll almost certainly learn information you can immediately put to use, regardless of your experience level. But if you fail to take action, then much of your investment will have been for naught.
Instead, if you’re committing to an event like Success Path (especially if you’re attending anything other than a preview event), make sure you understand which direction you’re headed beforehand. In other words, if you’re not going to implement the information (or at least use it to decide whether or not house flipping is for you), then you need to strongly consider whether or not it’s worth your time and money.
Who are Tarek and Christina, anyway? And what business do they have talking about real estate?
Who Are Tarek and Christina El Moussa?
Tarek El Moussa became a licensed real estate agent at the age of 21, which is how he met Christina. Things were going good until the 2008 stock market crash, after which the couple claims to have quickly moved from a $6,000 per month mortgage to a $700 per month apartment.
At the time, Orange County, CA (where the couple resides) was one of the hardest hit areas in the nation for home foreclosures. Tarek and Christina soon decided to use the situation to their advantage and began buying, fixing, and selling (otherwise known as flipping) homes for profit.
Then, based on his experience flipping homes, Tarek decided to send in an audition tape to HGTV in 2011. Amazingly, less than a year later, he and Christina had their very own show named Flip or Flop, which has since become a breakout hit for the network.
Today, Tarek and Christina run their own real estate agency, The El Moussa Group, and have become leads in the Success Path series of seminars and events.
Will Tarek and Christina Attend Your Seminar?
Although it might appear to be the case, Tarek and Christina didn’t start these seminars on their own. Instead, Success Path seminars are owned and operated by a company named Premier Mentoring Inc. (also known as Premium Financial Training) based out of Salt Lake City, UT. In fact, this is the case for many of the other celebrity endorsed seminar-based real estate training we’ve reviewed in the past.
What’s this mean for you? These events are set up and operated by an independent company, with its own staff and presenters, and Tarek and Christina’s likenesses are used primarily for marketing purposes. As such, unless you purchase a higher-level event (or get lucky at one of the lower tier seminars), Tarek and Christina are unlikely to be in attendance.
Speaking of purchasing, how much will a Success Path seminar set you back?
How Much Do Success Path Seminars Cost?
Most of the Success Path seminars you’ll see advertised online (such as on their home page) are for their free preview events. However, like many of the other real estate programs we’ve reviewed, these free seminars are intended to give you a taste of what you could learn by paying for higher level seminars.
Although these companies rarely—if ever—advertise their prices, one BiggerPockets forum user referenced the following:
- 3-Day Event (according to reviews, this is likely what’ll be pushed the hardest during the free seminar): $1799
- Gold Enrollment: $21,297
- Platinum Enrollment: $26,297
- Diamond Enrollment: $41,000
What constitutes the Gold, Platinum, and Diamond programs? We’re not told.
Given everything we’ve discussed here, should you attend a Success Path real estate seminar?
Will Success Path Seminars Help You “Build Your Future”?
According to the company, Success Path can help you “learn how to build the ultimate business and become real estate entrepreneurs.” Is this what you can realistically expect?
In a couple words? It’s certainly possible. But perhaps more importantly, is a Success Path ‘education’ worth your time and money? In other words, is it a good value? Based on customer feedback and our experience with similar programs, the answer to this questions largely depends on your needs. For example:
Are You a Go-Getter?
If you’re a self-starter who’s on a budget, and who enjoys learning new things independently, picking up the core information you need to launch a real estate career is fairly straightforward. After all, there are dozens of websites and thousands of different books dedicated to the topic, which can be used for free or at a minimum cost. On top of this, nearly every metropolitan area in the country features multiple real estate networking groups, where you can meet with other investors, who can provide invaluable advice—and maybe even partnerships!
Pro tip: Remember that the Success Path website doesn’t claim that you’ll necessarily learn anything revolutionary in their seminars. They do mention that, “with each deal, [Tarek and Christina] have refined their house-flipping system and broken it down into a series of repeatable steps.” However, you’ll notice they’re not claiming this is what you’ll learn; only that this is how Tarek and Christina approach their business.
Given this, if you like putting yourself out there and putting in the legwork to learn what you need, what you’ll uncover in Success Path seminars might not provide the greatest bang for your buck.
Do You Prefer Leaning on Someone Else’s Experience?
On the other hand, if you’d prefer to immediately join a large support network of like-minded individuals, but don’t have the time or ability to create one out of thin air, seminars like Success Path might provide a great deal of value.
Sure, you’ll pay quite a lot, but you’ll also have a built-in community who can provide some experience-based guidance as you make your first few deals, in order to make sure you’re doing everything right. You could even gain access to useful tools (such as software) and other services, like lenders who specialize in what investors like you need.
The Bottom Line About Success Path
Despite the negative feedback surrounding a lot of real estate seminars like Success Path, the fact of the matter is that there are thousands of satisfied customers, and they definitely have their place. Are they a place for you, though?
Ultimately, as we outlined in the previous section, this depends on your personality, your time commitment for the learning process, available funds, and more. But if you want to get a taste of what to expect, Success Path’s free seminars are happening all the time at locations all around the country, so you won’t be out anything more than a few hours of your time for giving them a test drive.
Did you find success through Success Path’s seminars? Or, do you feel they weren’t worth the time or money? Either way, we want to hear from you, so be sure to write a review below!
This is definitely an eye-opener. We didn't have that much clarity when we were coming out. We're working a deal right now. So that deal had me kind of wondering if I can handle it. I felt overwhelmed (like my plate was overflowing), and I didn't know how to clear it up some because I do work a full-time job, and so does my wife. And we were both feeling the same feeling. We have four children that we have to do homework with and help with their activities after school. That was how we felt, up until we did this camp.
Bottom Line: Yes, I would recommend this to a friend
2 out 2 people found this review helpful
Success Path is nothing but a big ripoff.
First they hit you up for $2,000 to attend a three-day seminar. Then after their "BS" of a seminar, they want you to come up with more money, and I ain't talking chump change, the cheapest program is $20,000. This is to get you the so called "help" buying and selling property.
And you will not meet Tarentum and Christina either, unless you want to go to Vegas. They don't have anything to do with this business except them getting paid to let Success Path use their name.
They got us for $7,000. We were going in to it full force. We didn't have the whole $20,000 up front, so they told us we could put up $5,000 and then pay the rest later, and if we could not get the rest of the money we would get the 5,000 back. Well, that is where we found out just what kind of people we were dealing with. SCAM ARTIST is the nicest thing I can say about them.
To make a longer story short, we didn't get nothing back but more "BS." Don't waste your time or money on attending these seminars.
Bottom Line: Yes, I would recommend this to a friend
5 out 7 people found this review helpful
It's been tough, but I'm seeing the return.
I went to my first Success Path Education seminar - the free one - in Orlando toward the beginning of this year. The room in the hotel was hard to find, but I had some time to kill that afternoon and I was intrigued by the prospect of investing in real estate.
I've never been into celebrities, so the fact that they weren't personally attending didn't bother me. In fact, it was probably a good thing - the guy they sent was much more down to earth than I imagine any celebrity could ever be.
The information presented was good - it was quickly apparent that, as I expected, this was more of a product preview. Nothing comes free, especially when people need money to make a living. Frankly, I was excited by the prospect. So I went ahead and bought the 3-day weekend, but passed on the tax lien seminar.
So the 3-day weekend comes around and I'm totally blown away. I have one complaint - it felt like too much too fast. I wish I had brought some sort of tape recorder so that I could listen to it and complete my notes. It's a lot of good info, very, VERY quick.
Unfortunately, I didn't have the money saved up to continue with the program. But I will soon. After several months of hard work, I'm finally closing on the sale of my first home. I'll be rolling that profit into the cost of one of the more advanced training packages. I've also been blessed enough to have a retired contractor for a father-in-law and he has been very helpful during the remodeling process and helped with some of the associated costs. So your mileage may vary.
Other than that, it's been some trial and error with a lot of hard work. Let me tell you now - if you're not going to put in the hours and the effort, and get down to the nitty-gritty, this isn't for you. There is no get rick quick scheme. If you get rich quick, it's only because you were smart, on the ball, and worked your ass off.
Long story short, Success Path has been good for me. Hence the review. I don't think that in the beginning they quite let on to how much work it's going to be, but that should be painfully obvious to you, anyway. And it isn't cheap - but the potential for big returns always comes with a big investment. And when this first house closes, I'll already have a positive return on my investment. So it's definitely been worth it.
Bottom Line: Yes, I would recommend this to a friend
4 out 8 people found this review helpful
Worth My Time
My wife and I attended the free event in Salt Lake City and the 3-Day Workshop that was the following week. We gave the weekend a 5-star review and after working with the products that we went on to further purchase, we stand by that review. We are both attending the Las Vegas Summit in 2 weeks and are very excited. I would highly recommend the program if that's what you are ready for in your life. My wife and I have the funds and we want the coaching and education. However, I wouldn't recommend it to any of my kids yet since they honestly don't have the time to handle the training and workshops. And I whole-heartedly believe they are necessary. Feel free to ask any questions, I'll do my best to help.
Bottom Line: Yes, I would recommend this to a friend
7 out 9 people found this review helpful
I was very disappointed in the fact that they made it seem like leading up to the seminar that Christina and Tarek were going to actually be at there and they were not so that was a let down from the start.
You saw and felt the whole mood in the room change. Next, the whole presentation was pretty informative and was engaging, however, it was mostly a sales pitch to get you to sign up for the three day seminar that was going to give you all this access to their software and support.
They did provide some valuable information but they would only briefly talk about the "good stuff" because they wanted you to pay for the 3 day event to hear more in depth about those topics.
The people signing you us were not friendly, there was three people total running the seminar and two presenters. The presenters were great and nice but the "workers" were not friendly at all especially after you seemed like you were not sure about signing up for the other 3 day event.
If you were on the fence about it or were hesitant they just moved on helping the next person but would do the same to them if they were hesitant as well.
Overall, on one hand it was great and there was a lot of information and the presenters were great. But the overall vibe was not great and after a while you knew you were at more of a sales pitch rather than a seminar offering actual knowledge.
Bottom Line: No, I would not recommend this to a friend